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lpatten Site Admin

Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: New Brunswick
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: The Illustrated Index Link Requests |
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When I added the links to the war records for Raymond Foley to the index and found the photograph of him, it once again struck me how compelling it is to have a photograph of a person. As an exercise I added photos of my grandfather and his parents to their census entries.
When reduced to a reasonable size and saved as a jpg image with moderate quality setting the images only take 5-10k of disk space so storage is not a real issue. I wonder how large a can of worms it would open to try to collect images for people in the census. It certainly seems to me to add a lot to the richness of the user experience.
Census entry for George Thomas Mitton
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Cheryl Martyn
Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 496 Location: Delta, B.C.
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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That would be so brilliant!! We could put photos from around that time and then maybe later in their lives. It would be the most unique census ever
Glad the trip went well. Did they mention 1911
My parents knew a George Mitton in Moncton -maybe your gand-father?!? |
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lpatten Site Admin

Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: New Brunswick
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Their goal with the 1911 is to have it up pretty quickly once the legislation has passed.
The 1901 Census shows one other George Mitton in the Moncton area, but it is a pretty good bet that the one your parents knew was my grandfather. He was a lawyer.
If people have images of people that appear in the 1901 census that you can put online you can post them in this thread by posting a reply and using the Img button on the compose message screen, if you then tell me the exact page and line they appear on I will link them in. I know people will be tempted to email me their images but please don't! Unless someone else wants to volunteer to receive images by email this will be limited to images that people can get up on the web themselves.
This is a limited time offer! I just want to see what the issues are and how much work it would be. And how interesting it turns out to be in reality. |
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Sean Delaney

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 772 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'm going to give this a try. I am going to put up two pictures but I will do it in two posting, because I'm not sure if you would want then in one posting. I was also wondering, I have both sets of parents for the pictures I'm posting but they are together in the two pictures--could the link to the parents be made to the same picture or would it be better to crop the faces separately??? I won't be posting the parents at this time...here goes nothing...
ON CARLETON North Gower f-2 Page 5 line 17

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Sean Delaney

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 772 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:10 am Post subject: |
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And here is the other one...
ON CARLETON Torbolton i Page 17 Line 44
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lpatten Site Admin

Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: New Brunswick
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I have linked the two images. A couple issues that came to mind were recording the source for the image, who identified the people in the image, the date of the photo if known, and the validity of modifying the image. On this last point I increased the compression parameter to get the file size down, and I saved them as grayscale images. I also increased the contrast on one image. I expect a real archivist would be horrified at these actions. This raises the question of whether I should disavow any pretense of serving as an "archive" for the photos.
Handling images with multiple people is another issue, which I have some ideas on... |
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Sean Delaney

Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 772 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I was wondering why you have to edit the pictures? I thought that you would be creating a link to the image on the original website, so file size would not be a problem... I thought that was how it worked???
| Quote: | | A couple issues that came to mind were recording the source for the image, who identified the people in the image, the date of the photo if known, and the validity of modifying the image |
these two people eventually were married... they are my Great Grandparents on my mother's mother's side. As far as the date, I don't really know they both died very early in their lives --He died in 1915. and she died in 1923.
I figured this might catch on, but I guess it hasn't...
| Quote: | | This raises the question of whether I should disavow any pretense of serving as an "archive" for the photos. |
I think that you might be creating massive amounts of work for yourself if you go through with this, although I do believe it is a great idea though!
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lpatten Site Admin

Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: New Brunswick
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| Sean Delaney wrote: | | I was wondering why you have to edit the pictures? I thought that you would be creating a link to the image on the original website, so file size would not be a problem... I thought that was how it worked??? |
That's another issue to consider. The problem with creating links to images on other sites is that I'll end up with a lot of broken links. What might make sense would be to make the copy AND keep a link to the original.
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| Quote: | | A couple issues that came to mind were recording the source for the image, who identified the people in the image, the date of the photo if known, and the validity of modifying the image |
these two people eventually were married... they are my Great Grandparents on my mother's mother's side. As far as the date, I don't really know they both died very early in their lives --He died in 1915. and she died in 1923.
I figured this might catch on, but I guess it hasn't...
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I think it will take a little longer before we can draw conclusions, very few people are following these boards day to day, and most of those are preoccupied with finishing the transcription. Besides, it is good to start out slow to work through the issues before dealing with a flood of requests.
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| Quote: | | This raises the question of whether I should disavow any pretense of serving as an "archive" for the photos. |
I think that you might be creating massive amounts of work for yourself if you go through with this, although I do believe it is a great idea though!
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Actually, my plan is to set this up so that a few volunteers can handle adding the images. Like the rest of the site, the key is to distribute the work as widely as possible. I am already a bottleneck in too many ways. |
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Jason Porteous
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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I like the idea.
One thing that I have found is that you never know who got the pictures. I always consider it a bit like finding lost treasure to get a photo of a direct anscester that you didn't know existed. I can see how this idea would allow for many people to find out who got the pictures and allow more people to share these sometimes rare treasures across now very large families.
I will look through what I got for some worthy pictures to post.
One thought, I have pictures of people, not direct ancestors, and wonder how appropriate it would be for me to send them for posting to the site. If someone had a picture of one of my ancestors and posted I would be happy to find it, but some may consider this as a bit of a privacy thing?!
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Marilyn Patten
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:40 am Post subject: |
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I am open to arguments to the contrary but I think that photos of people that appear in the 1901 census no longer present privacy issues. 1901 was 104 years ago, except in exceptional circumstances privacy issues go to the grave with the subject. As long as the photographs are of normal subject matter I don't see an issue.
Would anyone like to make an argument to the contrary?
Lindsay
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Cheryl Thomas Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Sorry to here your Putter Crashed today !!
I would love to post pic's of a few of my Ancestror's, I have pic's of My Great Grand Parent's and GGreat Grand Parent's who are in thie Census.
Just need to know the Who What Where and When to do this. One of my Favorites is an Obituary Card from my Hubbies Grand Mother's Grand Father he was 92 when he passed away in 1926 the Photo actually look's like he was around 92 . |
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lpatten Site Admin

Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 2075 Location: New Brunswick
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have scanned/digital images of the pictures? If so, are they available on the web? If so, just reply to this message and click on the Img button in the compose window, fill in the web address, and click the Img button again to close the image link.
If you do not have a digital copy of the pictures you need to find someone with a scanner or digital camera, digital cameras are more common but it is more difficult to achieve a good result.
If you have a digital copy but no way to put it on the web we need to find someone willing to receive images by email. |
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Sean Delaney

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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to add that the web address must include the image name. I spent about an hour trying to figure it out. The way that it worked for me was to go to the webpage, right click on the picture, go to the properties, highlight the "address" there, then "copy-paste" that address into the "Img" button. When I tried this the first time I was highlighting the web address off my browser and it wasn't working that way.
If someone didn't have a webpage to put their picture, I would be willing to have them email me the picture that they wanted up. The picture would have to be small, because I don't have any idea how much more space I have available to me. I also have dial up service so the emailed picture will take awhile to load on to my computer if it is to large.
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Cheryl Thomas Guest
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:56 am Post subject: |
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This should be interesting I actually Thought about it and I have Photo's from Step Family which I inherited also . I have a lady who had her Pic taken on her 93nd Birthday and she passed away in 1934 a year after the Photo.
will take a bit to figure out what Pictures to choose from. I have a Web Page at Tribal Pages so not to sure if that will work out? I have a scanneralso so all Images I have are easily rescaned or reajusted.
You prefer black and white over the original color of the Photo's? I may have to rescan.
Harriet McCurdy 93rd Birthday
Picture Dated 28 Apr 1933
1901 Census Just realized I have have to make a correction the name should read Harriet Armenila
District: ON LANARK (North/Nord) (#80)
Subdistrict: Huntley e-1 Page 5 Line 40 house hold 46
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lpatten Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| I have added a link to her photo to her record in the census. Thanks! |
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